Today's AI Headlines: Adoption, the future of SaaS, token economics & what's next.

Kevin Williams, founder of Ascend AI, joined the show to share how his journey through machine learning and ad-tech led him to build what he describes as an "AI office" for companies navigating the generative AI era. A central theme of the conversation is the importance of top-down AI communication inside organizations — and how the absence of it breeds confusion, fear, and unchecked shadow AI adoption. We tackle the jobs debate head-on, with Kevin making the case that near-term displacement is real, even as new roles and capabilities emerge on the other side. We conclude with a forward-looking view of the future of software and SaaS, exploring how token economics and AI agents may fundamentally reshape how companies build, buy, and use their tools.